tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post3337302815274507260..comments2023-12-29T04:36:07.964-04:00Comments on Square 8: Twelve minutesBevhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766614739853100172noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-53744812018569246452016-03-05T15:01:25.909-04:002016-03-05T15:01:25.909-04:00I don't have words 😞
Dear Bev, thank you for...I don't have words 😞<br /><br />Dear Bev, thank you for your written eloquence and your community serviceMiguel Palaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02311154354365423829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-82952342778895543182008-12-17T13:03:00.000-04:002008-12-17T13:03:00.000-04:00That article... What the FUCK?I can't say anything...That article... What the FUCK?<BR/><BR/>I can't say anything coherent. <BR/><BR/>What the fuck?<BR/><BR/>Murdered children? Anybody remembering the murdered children?<BR/><BR/>Nope. Those poor parents, being forced to murder their children!<BR/><BR/>logical... disconnect...Oliver A. FPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16488210560538050123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-89682828507566490862008-12-10T10:56:00.000-04:002008-12-10T10:56:00.000-04:00That "father" is a lousy excuse of a human. He wo...That "father" is a lousy excuse of a human. He would have been better to take his own life and spare his wonderful child. <BR/>I have two sons with Asperger's. I can't even imagine ever thinking that they derserved to die or that that needed to be "freed" from their diagnosis.Sheilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03607350771387706778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-18028832916941748062008-12-06T12:55:00.000-04:002008-12-06T12:55:00.000-04:00Codeman 38 wrote:"And I just noticed something els...Codeman 38 wrote:<BR/>"And I just noticed something else: Somehow, the comments to the Denver Post article ended up becoming a debate over taxpayer funding for services for the disabled.<BR/><BR/>Talk about Completely Missing The Point."<BR/><BR/>No, Mr. Codeman, unfortunately THAT is the point. I am not- ever- for nmurder of people with disabilities (or without...). If someone can not manage, they should give the child up for adoption/foster care. BUT PARENTS DO DO DO DO NEED SUPPORT. Therapies need to be provided. And oh, isn't it so much easier (and cheaper) to say that the victum is at fault, rather than paying for the support needed?rickismomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07817042750959998664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-17088091755016734202008-12-05T15:53:00.000-04:002008-12-05T15:53:00.000-04:00Thanks for posting this Bev. It's important.sanabi...Thanks for posting this Bev. It's important.<BR/><BR/>sanabituranima said..."I don't believe it's possible to deliberately kill another person if you really see them as a person (except, possibly, in self-defense and even then I'm not so sure)."<BR/><BR/>I agree with that. I don't think that it's human nature to deliberately kill other humans.<BR/><BR/>Something happens either before or after people murder. Humanity is lost. They don't see humanness in themselves or others.<BR/><BR/>The issues that are misunderstood about how autistic people relate to their environment and how people misinterpret the ways we deal with them begin with fictitious and overly standardized ways that relating is defined as "normal".<BR/><BR/>From there, for expediency and convenience, what people don't understand can too easily become what they ignore and/or react to without contemplating the consequences. <BR/><BR/>Behavior views too often judge different behavior so critically that human aspects that aren't readily understood by the viewer as just humanness they aren't accustomed to relating to can lead to the the most violent of inhuman acts.<BR/><BR/>I think the one who wrote that article is expressing a loose grip on humanity themself and that attitude needs to be exposed for how inappropriate it is and what kinds of really bad consequences can come from others adopting such views (which is what I saw in you do very well in your post)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-65195161506772715752008-12-05T13:49:00.000-04:002008-12-05T13:49:00.000-04:00I don't believe it's possible to deliberately kill...I don't believe it's possible to deliberately kill another person if you really see them as a person (except, possibly, in self-defence and even then I'm not so sure).<BR/><BR/>One day that father will come to understand what he has done. I feel truly sorry for him because of that, but that poor kid must get the lion's shatre of the sympathy (yet the article chooses to sympathise with the murderer). I can't imagine a stupider reason for killing anyone -let alone a child.<BR/><BR/>He was murdered because he couldn't do certain things. Because he seemed weird. Because he caused some people inconvenience some of the time. Because he wasn't exactly the child his parents wanted. Because he couldn't understand some things. Because he was frightened by things which other people found completely non-threatening.<BR/><BR/>If those were valid reasons for murder, we'd all be dead. Every last one of us. (And by "we" I mean the entire human race.)stopbeingstupidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14860866633957025571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-72895953753500281912008-12-04T20:51:00.000-04:002008-12-04T20:51:00.000-04:00Simply tragic story in this post.....very importan...Simply tragic story in this post.....very important for others to hear about these kinds of instances.<BR/><BR/>Also, I too address the female to male ratio as it pertains to AS during most of my speaking engagements. This is definately an important subject which needs ongogoing research as it will render data by which a clearer understanding of Aspergers as a whole will bring to light the facts of Neurodiversity.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12205160775713074869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-56680315582112536492008-12-04T20:48:00.000-04:002008-12-04T20:48:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12205160775713074869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-81567979619224612062008-12-04T20:14:00.000-04:002008-12-04T20:14:00.000-04:00Terribly sad. I can't imagine. I don't get what ...Terribly sad. I can't imagine. I don't get what people are thinking.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sharing this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-18682555899978984122008-12-04T01:26:00.000-04:002008-12-04T01:26:00.000-04:00...I couldn't get this out of my head, and decided......I couldn't get this out of my head, and decided to write a letter to that woman, even if I'm going to struggle with words, it just needs to be done.Gonzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503559847052448124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-79302864434867131162008-12-03T21:18:00.000-04:002008-12-03T21:18:00.000-04:00This article you linked to is the nastiest piece o...This article you linked to is the nastiest piece of hateful trash, especially the last sentence, sounds like parents just "have to" do this to free themselves.<BR/>...and the list, as if this would justify this.<BR/>Bizarre, how they mentioned all the quackery like chelation, as if anyone has to spend money on that, and then blaming Autism...<BR/>The whole thing is just so horrible.<BR/>Thanks for finding some beautiful words, now the boy has at least an obituary.<BR/>That's the saddest part, to get insulted even after being murdered.<BR/><BR/>PS:<BR/>Sorry for the incoherent comment, I'm completely at loss for words.Gonzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16503559847052448124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-72990651498841705792008-12-03T20:44:00.000-04:002008-12-03T20:44:00.000-04:00"A pathologist in Pekin, Ill., suffocated her 3-ye..."A pathologist in Pekin, Ill., suffocated her 3-year-old daughter by placing a trash bag over her head. In court, asked whether she realized she was murdering her child, she answered, "No." Asked whom she thought she was killing, she answered, "Autism.""<BR/><BR/>This line in the article you linked broke my heart. This was a little girl. A little girl died, was killed, because her own mother didn't know how to see her any more. I just don't have words for this. Only tears.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-66926524447838470042008-12-03T20:25:00.000-04:002008-12-03T20:25:00.000-04:00While I can see both sides, the parents (separate)...While I can see both sides, the parents (separate) anguish and the child's pain... I see no reason for the termination of a life.<BR/><BR/>The sad fact is that this sort of thing happens a lot more than you'd expect - and not just for reasons of autism. <BR/><BR/>The modern family just doesn't seem to have the same "fall-back" structure that the families of yesteryear had.<BR/><BR/>It's all very well to expect the parents and teachers to monitor the child - but who monitors the parents. Nobody's perfect and we all go a little crazy sometimes (usually not quite that crazy though.. and as I said before, it doesn't justify the outcome). It's just a pity that in this day and age, there's no grandparents, aunts & uncles, second and third generation cousins etc around to keep families working together.Gavin Bollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13833941398375568706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-60776663875143693732008-12-03T17:49:00.000-04:002008-12-03T17:49:00.000-04:00I keep thinking about what the father said: "I had...I keep thinking about what the father said: "I had to kill him because you were ruining him". The mother was involved with a support group, and the father was autistic. I think the mother wanted a nice normal child and the father didn't like her methods.ASpieboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04299629515371929590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-62690307699844697712008-12-03T15:03:00.000-04:002008-12-03T15:03:00.000-04:00And I just noticed something else: Somehow, the co...And I just noticed something else: Somehow, the comments to the Denver Post article ended up becoming a debate over taxpayer funding for services for the disabled.<BR/><BR/>Talk about Completely Missing The Point.<BR/><BR/>Seriously, I just don't <I>get</I> neurotypicals sometimes.codeman38https://www.blogger.com/profile/09005307767833296869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-40263793567751838112008-12-03T14:21:00.000-04:002008-12-03T14:21:00.000-04:00I can't believe that Denver Post story... how offe...I can't believe that Denver Post story... how offensive *and* judgmental. I'm seriously tempted to write a letter to the editor.codeman38https://www.blogger.com/profile/09005307767833296869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-87889348152955077362008-12-03T14:04:00.000-04:002008-12-03T14:04:00.000-04:00The "story" in that link was truly disgusting. See...The "story" in that link was truly disgusting. Seems like the bulk of it was meant to justify murder. <BR/><BR/>"Oh, they're so troublesome! Their therapy is so expensive! They can't do this, or that, what are they really worth anyway? You can't blame this poor man for killing his son, all these other people did it too, and if you were in their shoes, so would you." <BR/><BR/>The entire story was slanted to vindicate that man and justify his murdering his son. Why?Clayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09424036357963352399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-7619467827786001262008-12-03T10:07:00.000-04:002008-12-03T10:07:00.000-04:00Bev, thanks for doing your part to show the witch ...Bev, thanks for doing your part to show the witch hunt for what it is. I hope the reporter will one day realize what she said and feel deeply ashamed of herself. Ditto the editor who saw nothing wrong with that story.abfhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01228622726560993968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-70873547167938298382008-12-03T07:55:00.000-04:002008-12-03T07:55:00.000-04:00I feel truly disconnected from those parents in th...I feel truly disconnected from those parents in that story. As usual, the story centered on the parents and not the child. I can't imagine chatting at a table, drinking a latte, and saying to others that I could sympathize with that father and his actions. What is wrong with people? Then, you go down and read the comments and you read what is becoming much more frequent than it was a few years ago (i.e. people writing that "these" kids shouldn't be mainstreamed).<BR/><BR/>I write this as my son wakes up, walks into the room, gets on my lap and buries his head into my neck. A ritual every morning to wipe away sleepy eyes. <BR/><BR/>I can't imagine sympathizing with that father, sorry.<BR/><BR/>CSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-502084137341945372008-12-03T01:04:00.000-04:002008-12-03T01:04:00.000-04:00Beautiful, moving post, Bev. Thanks so much for a...Beautiful, moving post, Bev. Thanks so much for all you do and are.Mary P Jones (MPJ)https://www.blogger.com/profile/10251787926841410344noreply@blogger.com