tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post9056146362894766285..comments2023-12-29T04:36:07.964-04:00Comments on Square 8: Perseveration in the WorkplaceBevhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06766614739853100172noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-23555562324698383212014-12-27T11:56:36.462-04:002014-12-27T11:56:36.462-04:00Another form of perseveration that has gotten me i...Another form of perseveration that has gotten me into trouble is thoroughly investigating something in a laboratory until actually finding a solution when more influential people had written the problem off as unsolvable, thereby upsetting the social balance. Or finding faults during regression testing that I had no idea other more influential people had passed in previous rounds. I was attacked by a group of workers that ganged up on me saying that I was just trying to make them look bad, when all I did was to be thorough until I got to the root cause of a discrepancy or actually discern that a pass/fail criteria was either pass or fail instead of penci-whipping the answer. It shows to go you that even laboratories can be social Hells for some Aspies! (With bullying and all)Miguel Palaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02311154354365423829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-33278393818135925042014-12-27T11:27:24.983-04:002014-12-27T11:27:24.983-04:00Wow! I learned something new. And I enjoyed learni...Wow! I learned something new. And I enjoyed learning about it 10x more than learning about the Super Bowl! hahaha<br /><br />I will never see falcons the same now. And I don't mean the Atlanta Falcons!Miguel Palaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02311154354365423829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-77062868237031094302014-12-27T11:15:32.017-04:002014-12-27T11:15:32.017-04:00On-the-other-hand, had it not been for perseverati...On-the-other-hand, had it not been for perseveration, we wouldn't have the lightbulb. Miguel Palaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02311154354365423829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-47221672493321563352014-12-27T11:13:53.826-04:002014-12-27T11:13:53.826-04:00Hahahaha "she Did y know a thing about Súper ...Hahahaha "she Did y know a thing about Súper Bowl either" 😆<br /><br />Yes, it seems that some "NTs" do perseverate about certain things, and they go on and on and on about them, like the Super Bowl. But they only get annoyed when we perseverate about stuff like parrots. Go figure! <br /><br />And bosses writing knee-jerk behavioral plans... ...that's so typical. I really dislike bosses like those. And those are often the first, second and third steps to booting you out of the department or put of your job, because they are no longer inclined to follow "inclusion". If it were up to some bosses, productivity would go down, as long as the workplace were packed with people who used sports metaphors and yakked about the Super Bowl all day. I once worked in a place just like that and I was always on the outs because I didn't do or watch sports. Miguel Palaciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02311154354365423829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-49978920795065209232010-05-16T19:43:29.956-04:002010-05-16T19:43:29.956-04:00I wanted to hear more about the parrots! Forget t...I wanted to hear more about the parrots! Forget the spreadsheet! LOL. Ok, but I got your point, too. :)Happy Elf Mom (Christine)https://www.blogger.com/profile/15047347624037697311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-49117530449994511872010-04-20T10:12:18.826-04:002010-04-20T10:12:18.826-04:00I love idea behind this vid, but the "NT"...I love idea behind this vid, but the "NT" superbowl fan's behavior is SO annoying that it almost obscures the point. Superbowl Guy is pushy & disrespectful & generally AWFUL -- I'm a relatively NT person, & neither I nor my relatively NT friends would find him tolerable for even two seconds. <br /><br />That said, of course you're right that "some perseverations are [considered] better than others," which sucks, as my autie kid is beginning to find out.anne.gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-54243852472471802632010-04-13T09:09:43.983-04:002010-04-13T09:09:43.983-04:00I saw a documentary recently that included Ospreys...I saw a documentary recently that included Ospreys. The normally have three toes in the front, but they can move one toe around to have two front/two back. <br /><br />I thought "part time parrot?"<br /><br />No curved beak, though.<br /><br />See, your videos are educational on many fronts--I remembered the toes thing two months after reading this post.Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552181434048105079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-3311843533770655852010-04-08T20:30:03.491-04:002010-04-08T20:30:03.491-04:00Hah! Love it.Hah! Love it.Maddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05828186178060722812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-51980803133489161452010-03-21T15:32:11.477-04:002010-03-21T15:32:11.477-04:00Great video, Bev! That conversation between you an...Great video, Bev! That conversation between you and the co-worker about parrots really resembled me back in kindergarten! How? I remembered the time when it was just days after my very first cruise and I talked about "Tropicana Lounge" extensively until my teacher tells me to can it! LOL!The Whiz Kid Fortehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08577109835717863513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-62944312511422827522010-03-03T12:41:00.188-04:002010-03-03T12:41:00.188-04:00These videos are terrific. I, too, appreciate tha...These videos are terrific. I, too, appreciate that you put captions on them, because a lot of times I like to watch videos without sound so that I know what's in them.<br /><br />This video makes me feel like I can see both sides, because I have Asperger's syndrome, but one of my "special interests" happens to be football! I love learning about the history of the game, how the helmet designs and uniforms for every team have changed over the years, and I find keeping track of the weekly standings, with all of the complex tiebreakers for playoff seeding, to be incredibly relaxing.<br /><br />I have been thankful to have a "perseveration" that happens to fall into one of the typical "small talk" categories, because it gives me a way to talk to people as long as they have some interest in sports. If I know what city they are from or what team they are a fan of, I can talk with them about their team's history.<br /><br />But of course, I have trouble going from there to other topics that would really help me to get to know the other person, and if they're not a sports fan at all, it's hard to figure out what to talk about.Nathan K.http://landofmysojourn.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-38240831127125687792010-03-02T20:53:49.586-04:002010-03-02T20:53:49.586-04:00Hi Sullivan,
No, I probably wouldn't watch, b...Hi Sullivan,<br /><br />No, I probably wouldn't watch, but I'd want to check out the uniforms. Would they have feathers? Beaks? Maybe then...Bevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766614739853100172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-48910500212622976682010-03-02T16:13:14.574-04:002010-03-02T16:13:14.574-04:00Good stuff, Bev. Not that anyone could accuse me ...Good stuff, Bev. Not that anyone could accuse me of perseveration ;)<br /><br />One question. If there were an NFL team "the Parrots" would you watch?<br /><br />"Patriots" almost sounds like "parrots"...<br /><br />OK, I've used up my football knowledge.Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13552181434048105079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-42738699084125089412010-02-25T20:02:52.878-04:002010-02-25T20:02:52.878-04:00I would love to sniff falcons! I used to sniff my ...I would love to sniff falcons! I used to sniff my budgerigar and later, my sister's cockatiel, all the time. They smelled sweet like the seeds they ate. Oh the joys of burying one's nose in downy puffed-out cheek feathers!!<br /><br />Now I bury my nose in my cat's fur and although not bad-smelling, I have to say, he's not as sweet-smelling as the little parrots were. (But don't tell him I said that!)DGirlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-88030196390480705832010-02-22T22:42:47.904-04:002010-02-22T22:42:47.904-04:00Oh, cool. Thanks for the link. :)
And it was the ...Oh, cool. Thanks for the link. :)<br /><br />And it was the second explanation after all! I was obviously wrong about smelling birds! That makes me want to try it myself to see (not that I have access to that many tame birds...)<br /><br />Thanks again,<br />LittlewolfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-848956181775838412010-02-21T00:47:36.636-04:002010-02-21T00:47:36.636-04:00http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/320...http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/320/5884/1763<br /><br />I meant that humans who sniff falcons and Pionus find that they smell alike. I've smelled tame specimens of both and agree.Graftonhttp://asdrelationships.freeforums.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-51389675166576443182010-02-20T23:07:21.545-04:002010-02-20T23:07:21.545-04:00So falcons = parrots? Cool! Was it mtDNA that they...So falcons = parrots? Cool! Was it mtDNA that they used to do the testing, or another type? <br /><br />By falcons 'smelling more' like Pionus, do you mean that the falcon- odor humans smell is more like what we would experience Pionus-smell as, or do you mean that the olfactory sense of falcons is similar to the olfactory sense of Pionus? (Sorry, not trying to be picky about things here--I'm just confused! I'm assuming that the latter explanation is the correct one, as I can't imagine most scientists going around sniffing birds! LOL)<br /><br />LittlewolfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-33937062755702597662010-02-20T05:58:31.046-04:002010-02-20T05:58:31.046-04:00In 2008 some DNA test findings were released that ...In 2008 some DNA test findings were released that showed that falcons are parrots. Or evolved from them, anyway. I don't think they've got any more precise than that, which is very sad because I'd like to know which types of parrots are more recent animals, and where falcons and parrots diverged.<br /><br />Some people who nobody listens to have thought that falcons might be parrots long before that. Look at pictures of falcons and parrots and eagles and hawks. Falcons have head shapes like parrots, and their beaks are shorter and more parrot like, they have bare rings 'round their eyes like parrots. Falcons also like to sometimes pick up food with one foot and lift it to their beaks, which parrots do all the time but hawks and eagles never do, and supposedly don't really have the right leg articulation to do. Falcons don't have zygodactyl feet but they don't really quite have normal anisodactyly like other hawks, though -- digit 4 seems to stick straight out to the side instead of forward. Which is funny. Owls have zygodactyl feet (they are my favourite feet in the world, being zygodactyl, and talonned, <i>and</i> furry) but when owls walk on the ground they usually swivel digit 4 so it faces forward anisodactyl-fashion, but parrots don't do that, they walk with two toes back. You would think that falcons would swivel digit 4 forward when walking on the ground because it's got to be a pain having it stick out that way, but I've never seen this happen. Not that I see them walking on the ground much.<br /><br />Falcons smell more like parrots of the genus <i>Pionus</i> than they do like hawks. I think that <i>Pionus</i> are the closest relatives of falcons. <i>Pionus fuscus</i> even has facial markings similar to the ones on a lot of falcons.Graftonhttp://asdrelationships.freeforums.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-43536694519463317172010-02-20T02:49:04.450-04:002010-02-20T02:49:04.450-04:00I loved this. Awesome awesome awesome.I loved this. Awesome awesome awesome.CrouchingOwlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11487490296599614185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-84291882600890435922010-02-19T23:11:19.333-04:002010-02-19T23:11:19.333-04:00I think it would be really cool to learn about the...I think it would be really cool to learn about the evolutionary path of parrots and falcons. Especially since I'm currently in an animal behavior class where we are learning about the ultimate (evolutionary-based) causes of behavior rather than focusing on proximate (physiologically-based) causes.<br /><br />Littlewolf (a little embarrassed that she had to look up zygodactyly to find out exactly what it meant, even though she knew it had to do with digits)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-90992174748967981792010-02-19T00:38:03.162-04:002010-02-19T00:38:03.162-04:00Good one. I've come to believe that 'come ...Good one. I've come to believe that 'come out of your own little world' just means that people want me to be less interested in bird feet and more interested in football.<br /><br />This video makes me want to talk about zygodactyly in parrots and the evolutionary path of parrots and falcons.Graftonhttp://asdrelationships.freeforums.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-7214871686198462392010-02-18T16:23:32.473-04:002010-02-18T16:23:32.473-04:00Thanks Meg,
I've got it now. It's like ...Thanks Meg, <br /><br />I've got it now. It's like at work when we're trying to have a meeting and people want to talk about sports (which I find crushingly boring) or TV shows (which I generally don't watch). <br /><br />They waste half the meeting time on it, then get upset if I take too long (or go into too much detail) on something to do with our computer system which is at least more relevant to them.<br /><br />Computers are a special interest of mine, so sometimes I go into more detail than is really necessary - but it's still "on-topic".Gavin Bollardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13833941398375568706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-83410878076392471592010-02-18T15:51:16.816-04:002010-02-18T15:51:16.816-04:00Hey Gavin, for me, the video addressed your second...Hey Gavin, for me, the video addressed your second thought which I'll quote: <br /><br />"OR<br />Is he simply an NT who has a fixation which is just as annoying to outsiders as the aspie special interest - but everyone seems to think his fixation is acceptable?"<br /><br />For me it made a great statement about how the world views as time wasting talk-- and what types of time wasters have 'dignity'.<br /><br />It also did a great job of making a more global statement with great humor about the way time wasting is seen differently based on whether you are the talker or the person forced to listen.<br /><br />I think I might have had a final frame where he found someone who wanted to talk about the game -- then I'd have had a clock spinning showing the passage of much time... then some final statement about how they could get started on X task but it was late and they were busy.<br /><br />What makes time wasting acceptable etc. Great job Bev.. loved it.Meghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08231045692222392595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-49656154322519777312010-02-18T12:23:20.709-04:002010-02-18T12:23:20.709-04:00I'd rather talk about parrots, too.I'd rather talk about parrots, too.Stephaniehttp://embracingchaos.stephanieallencrist.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-60230912620517602792010-02-17T21:40:19.529-04:002010-02-17T21:40:19.529-04:00ROTFLMFAO! That guy going on about the Super Bowl ...ROTFLMFAO! That guy going on about the Super Bowl sounds a lot like my brother when he goes on endlessly about sports! This really makes the point about what behaviors are considered normal for which people. Awesome video.TheWiredOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603161451462354948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5794893825407092443.post-25066400865482769952010-02-17T21:07:16.566-04:002010-02-17T21:07:16.566-04:00zeyhna,
Thanks. I actually have one planned that I...zeyhna,<br />Thanks. I actually have one planned that I think will help fill that void. Look for it here in a couple of weeks.Bevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06766614739853100172noreply@blogger.com